Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/03/2001 03:03 PM House HES

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HB 99-SCHOOL DISCIPLINE AND SAFETY                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  announced that the  committee would hear  HOUSE BILL                                                               
NO.  99,  "An  Act  relating  to  school  discipline  and  safety                                                               
programs; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0080                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LESIL  McGUIRE,  Alaska State  Legislature,  came                                                               
forth as sponsor  of HB 99.  She stated  that violence prevention                                                               
requires many "partners," which should  include the state and the                                                               
school districts.  She explained that  HB 99 would do two things.                                                               
The first is it would ask  school districts to adopt policies for                                                               
implementing dispute  resolution strategies.   She added  that it                                                               
is her  understanding that this  is already  in place in  many of                                                               
the  schools,  particularly on  the  elementary  and junior  high                                                               
levels; however, her target is primarily high school.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE  explained that high schools  seem to lack                                                               
[dispute resolution  programs], with one notable  exception.  She                                                               
stated that Chugiak  High School has formed  the Peaceable School                                                               
Project, which  has had tremendous  success in  lowering violence                                                               
in the school.   Chugiak started its program  by putting policies                                                               
into  place.  She  stated  that  she is  asking  for  these  same                                                               
policies in  HB 99 -  getting parents, students, and  teachers to                                                               
talk about  what they have in  place already in order  to address                                                               
the nonviolent resolution of conflicts.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  McGUIRE   continued,  stating  that   the  second                                                               
component is that she would  like to see specially trained people                                                               
in  the  schools wherever  possible.    She  noted that  she  has                                                               
requested for a pilot program  to be created within the Anchorage                                                               
School  District.   She  remarked  that  she thinks  this  should                                                               
already be happening in the  school districts since the incidence                                                               
of school  violence has escalated.   Alaska has led the  way with                                                               
the shooting  in Bethel,  which was  followed by  Columbine [High                                                               
School, in Colorado] and other  notable shootings.  However, more                                                               
recently  within the  Anchorage School  District there  have been                                                               
cases  of  fights in  which  a  baseball  bat  has been  used,  a                                                               
stabbing, and bomb threats.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  McGUIRE expressed  that she  believes this  is an                                                               
area  of education  that's  as important  as  math, reading,  and                                                               
writing because if  there isn't a safe school for  children to go                                                               
to, it doesn't matter what is  taught inside.  She concluded that                                                               
this is  her attempt  to get teachers,  students, and  parents to                                                               
focus  on this  epidemic of  violence  and start  coming up  with                                                               
creative solutions and strategies within  the schools.  She added                                                               
that there are grant funds available at the state level.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0590                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON asked  how many  schools do  and how  many                                                               
don't have [programs] like this.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE  answered that  she doesn't  have figures,                                                               
but,  in her  cursory study,  she hasn't  found an  elementary or                                                               
junior high school that doesn't.   However, the high schools tend                                                               
to not  focus as much on  this area.   She added that one  of the                                                               
ways  these types  of bills  prove to  be educational  is that  a                                                               
policy  manual  update  [is distributed]  throughout  the  school                                                               
districts,  which  [explains]  what  the  law  is.    It  states:                                                               
"Districts  should   meet  with  students,   parents,  guardians,                                                               
teachers, school  administrators, and  advisory school  boards in                                                               
each  community  to review  existing  policies  and determine  if                                                               
changes, additions,  or deletions are  required in order  to meet                                                               
the  law."   She  stated that  she hopes  this  will encourage  a                                                               
refocusing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0535                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  asked if  any  of  the [bill's]  language                                                               
would  require schools  that  are  already implementing  programs                                                               
like this to do more.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE answered  no.  She stated that  one of her                                                               
concerns  is to  not  cause additional  financial  burdens.   She                                                               
explained that this is using existing resources and refocusing.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0568                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON announced  that the  [proposed committee  substitute                                                               
(CS)  for  HB  99,  Version J,  22-LS0478\J,  Ford,  4/2/01]  was                                                               
adopted as a work draft.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL asked if  the differences between [Version                                                               
J] and  [the original bill]  is that Version  J just calls  for a                                                               
strategy rather than a program.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE answered, "Exactly."   She stated that the                                                               
purpose  in the  changes was  to avoid  passing a  large unfunded                                                               
mandate.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 0634                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE remarked  that [the  bill] doesn't  require                                                               
the teachers to go through an  in-service.  He noted that on page                                                               
2, line 14,  paragraph (7) states:  "policies  for implementing a                                                               
student  conflict...."   He asked  if  these polices  need to  be                                                               
adopted or can be made inactive  if there isn't a vehicle for the                                                               
training to go with it.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  McGUIRE replied  that the  problem is  that there                                                               
are some fiscal  restraints.  Therefore, she said,  she had tried                                                               
to figure out what could be  a starting point.  She remarked that                                                               
various teachers  in the  district are  concerned that  they have                                                               
limited in-services  as it  is, and  that adding  another subject                                                               
area would take  away from what's required.  She  stated that she                                                               
is  hoping  that  once  teachers,  students,  and  parents  start                                                               
talking  about this,  there will  be a  move to  shift away  some                                                               
resources from  other areas.     She added  that Chugiak  sends a                                                               
survey to all of the teachers  asking:  "Can you identify one way                                                               
that you  can help with  our Peaceable  School Project?"   All of                                                               
these  ways  require  no  money;  they  include  talking  to  the                                                               
students  and teaching  cultural  values,  attending one  student                                                               
government  or athletic  event  a month,  or  participating in  a                                                               
faculty forum to bring up the subject of school mediation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0886                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  made a motion  to move  the CS for  HB 99,                                                               
version   22-LS0478\J,   Ford,   4/2/01,  from   committee   with                                                               
individual recommendations and the attached zero fiscal notes.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0945                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEBBIE   OSSIANDER,  Anchorage   School   Board,  testified   via                                                               
teleconference in  support of HB 99.   She stated that  the first                                                               
priority of  the school  board is safe  schools.   [The Anchorage                                                               
School  Board] has  been working  toward better  ways to  resolve                                                               
student  conflict  for  some time,  particularly  by  adopting  a                                                               
program  at  the  elementary   level  called  Resolving  Conflict                                                               
Creatively.   She  added that  [the Anchorage  School Board]  has                                                               
been  primarily   trying  to  implement  this   through  actively                                                               
soliciting  grant funding  in order  to obtain  training for  the                                                               
staff and coordinators.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS asked  how the  teachers are  prepared in                                                               
order to present programs to their students.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER  replied that if  this bill passes,  [the Anchorage                                                               
School Board]  would integrate this  particular direction  in the                                                               
students'  rights and  responsibilities  document  in the  policy                                                               
manual.   She noted  that every year  the principals  run through                                                               
the  students'  rights   and  responsibilities  document,  giving                                                               
direction  to staff  on  how best  to  handle student  discipline                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  asked if  this would be  a subject  for a                                                               
teacher in-service.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  OSSIANDER  answered  that  in  the  beginning  of  the  year                                                               
specific  time  is  set  aside  to  acquaint  teachers  with  the                                                               
Students  Rights  and  Responsibility  document;  however,  there                                                               
would not be a specific day of in-service.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT BUTTCANE,  Legislative & Administrative  Liaison, Division                                                               
of  Juvenile Justice,  Department  of Health  & Social  Services,                                                               
came forth to testify  in support of HB 99.   He remarked that in                                                               
juvenile justice  over the  last couple of  years there  has been                                                               
seen  an  increasing  propensity  to  resolve  conflicts  through                                                               
violence.  He  stated that this bill interrupts  that and teaches                                                               
students a new  way of dealing with interpersonal  conflict.  The                                                               
office of Juvenile Justice and  Delinquency Prevention has done a                                                               
number of  research studies  and has  developed a  program guide.                                                               
He quoted [from this guide]:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The tenets  of conflict resolution present  a new model                                                                    
     of interacting  with and  thinking about  other people,                                                                    
     one  that challenges  us to  go beyond  stereotypes, to                                                                    
     consider  the  other's  point of  view,  and  to  reach                                                                    
     mutually satisfactory  agreements in which  all parties                                                                    
     win.   If  we can  succeed in  teaching our  youth this                                                                    
     framework for  solving their disputes, the  results for                                                                    
     them and for our society could be profound.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1172                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS asked  how teachers  are trained  so that                                                               
they  could  help their  students  in  [nonviolence and  conflict                                                               
resolution].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BUTTCANE  answered that  in  his  experience as  a  juvenile                                                               
probation officer  working with schools  that do this,  some have                                                               
very specific  programs that individual teachers  are responsible                                                               
for.  Other teachers would  then refer students to those teachers                                                               
who  have that  expertise.   He stated  that other  schools might                                                               
have  policies  that vest  a  lot  of  that work  with  assistant                                                               
principals or  the principal  of the  school.   He added  that he                                                               
thinks the  sponsor's intent of encouraging  schools or requiring                                                               
schools  to develop  policies would  [allow  schools to]  develop                                                               
those polices and  subsequent programs or actions  that would fit                                                               
or respond to their unique situations.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON stated  that he  thinks Ms.  Ossiander said  that it                                                               
would be addressed  in the pre-school meetings of  the faculty in                                                               
a broader context.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA stated  that she  has met  with people  in                                                               
some schools  that have programs  similar to this.   She remarked                                                               
that this  is exactly what schools  ought to be doing  because if                                                               
children cannot get through school  without learning how to solve                                                               
problems  peaceably,  they  are  not  going to  be  fit  for  the                                                               
workplace.   She asked  if this  is put in  place, what  would be                                                               
taken away.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. OSSIANDER replied that [the  Anchorage School Board] believes                                                               
that this is  important and has been trying to  get the money for                                                               
this.   She noted that  the board  has been fairly  successful by                                                               
working through grants  and using the federal Safe  and Drug Free                                                               
Schools money.   She stated that [the Anchorage  School Board] is                                                               
going to  try to provide  training for everyone and  have addenda                                                               
so there  are specific mediators on  staff.  She added  that [the                                                               
Anchorage  School  District]  has  been fortunate  to  have  many                                                               
teachers who  are willing to  do this without  additional addenda                                                               
because of  their interest and  belief in the importance  of this                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1400                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
VERNON   MARSHALL,   Executive   Director,   National   Education                                                               
Association-Alaska  (NEA-Alaska),   came  forth  to   testify  in                                                               
support of HB 99.  He  stated that [NEA-Alaska] has committed its                                                               
dues    dollars   to    providing   in-services    and   training                                                               
opportunities, offered  through the  union, for teachers  in this                                                               
critical area.   The areas  of safe schools, discipline,  and the                                                               
changed environment  in which many teachers  find themselves have                                                               
forced [NEA-Alaska] to  realize that more can  be accomplished in                                                               
a  safe  classroom,  in  terms  of education.    He  stated  that                                                               
[Alaska] is  paying [for  the conflicts  that occur  in schools].                                                               
For example, [recently]  there was a bomb scare in  a school, the                                                               
school was  shut down, and  a 16-year-old  boy was arrested.   He                                                               
stated that there  were costs associated with the  search for the                                                               
bomb,  and with  the  actual shutting  down of  the  school.   He                                                               
concluded that it  is necessary to learn at the  school level how                                                               
to get along  with one another, and to figure  out the best means                                                               
to allow relief of aggression.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE  asked if  NEA-Alaska  would  fund the  in-                                                               
service training for this once [the policies] are implemented.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARSHALL answered  yes.  He stated that  right now NEA-Alaska                                                               
has budgeted $25,000 for Safe  School training.  There is already                                                               
a staff in place, and much of the material has been purchased.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE  asked  if  NEA-Alaska  would  provide  the                                                               
training  at  each  district's   site  as  each  school  district                                                               
completes these policies and gets ready for implementation.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARSHALL  responded  that  [NEA-Alaska]  would  provide  the                                                               
training  from one  of the  regional  offices and  work with  the                                                               
local school  district.  For  example, when the  tragedy happened                                                               
in Bethel, [NEA-Alaska]  secured a team from  California that was                                                               
trained in critical crisis intervention  to go to Bethel and deal                                                               
with those who were grieving.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1677                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked the  committee if there  was any  objection to                                                               
Representative  Wilson's  motion  [to  move the  CS  for  HB  99,                                                               
version 22-LS0478\J,  Ford, 4/2/01] from committee.   There being                                                               
no  objection,   CSHB  99(HES)  moved  from   the  House  Health,                                                               
Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                

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